Oct 10, 2018

Brother Rando: Questions from a non-believer

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Good to find you again on another platform. Tried you on twitter but here we are...

Hope All is well with you Bro Rando... If not please let me know as perhaps in

some way i am in your path in connection with Jehovah to help as an instrument.

 

From my side of things I got some questions from a non-believer.

Would appreciate your take once more...

 

1) if Jesus isn't God, then how can He atone for sin? Even if he was

perfect He may have paid for one sin or one person, but how does non-infinite

cover infinite? How do you reconcile Jesus as being just a man with John 1?

 

2) Does it bother you that denying the deity of Christ is recognized as heresy

and has been for almost the entirety of church history?

 

3) Does it bother you that the Watchtower has 5 or more times unsuccessfully tried to predict the end of the world and to add insult to injury the bible itself says you judge a false

prophet when what they say doesn't happen?

 

Bro Rando thanks for the music i rather enjoyed it..i'll be back for more :)

 

Bro JC

 

Oct 11, 2018Edited: Oct 12, 2018

Hello and Thank You for Your Questions. 1) if Jesus isn't God, then how can He atone for sin?

Since God is eternal, he cannot die nor be sacrificed. "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) The Scripture don't claim that God died for our sins but rather,"that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures;" (1 Corinthians 15:3)

 

Even if he was perfect He may have paid for one sin or one person, but how does non-infinite

cover infinite? "That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned —." (Romans 5:12) "For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one person many will be made righteous." (Romans 5:19)

 

How do you reconcile Jesus as being just a man with John 1? "In the beginning was the Word," (John 1:1) The Greek word for beginning is the feminine noun arché which describes the Word not God as the first of Creation being the beginning of Creation, properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").

 

Strong's Concordance

arché: beginning, origin

Original Word: ἀρχή, ῆς, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: arché Phonetic Spelling: (ar-khay') Definition: beginning, origin Usage: (a) rule (kingly or magisterial), (b) plur: in a quasi-personal sense, almost: rulers, magistrates, (c) beginning.

 

HELPS Word-studies 746 arxḗ – properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").

 

"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;" (Colossians 1:15)

 

Strong's Concordance

ktisis: creation (the act or the product)

Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: ktisis Phonetic Spelling: (ktis'-is) Definition: creation (the act or the product) Usage: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.

 

HELPS Word-studies Cognate: 2937 ktísis – properly, creation (creature) which is founded from nothing (this is also the sense of this term from Homer on); creation out of nothing (Lat ex nihilo).

Oct 11, 2018Edited: Oct 11, 2018

2) Does it bother you that denying the deity of Christ is recognized as heresy and has been for almost the entirety of church history?

 

Jehovah Witnesses accept the deity of Christ in that, "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;" (Colossians 1:15)

 

Strong's Concordance

ktisis: creation (the act or the product)

Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ

Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine

Transliteration: ktisis

Phonetic Spelling: (ktis'-is)

Definition: creation (the act or the product)

Usage: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.

 

Did you notice ALWAYS OF DIVINE WORK? The Greek Word for Deity is theotés, a feminine noun describing Christ. Why? Because the Deity of Christ is DIVINE WORK of All Creation.

 

Strong's Concordance

theotés: deity

Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: theotés Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace) Definition: deity Usage: deity, Godhead.

 

Biblical Scholars of Christendom falsely proclaim that theos is never rendered in the feminine sense. But is this true? Here we find a note where deity is derived from: 2320 theótēs (a feminine noun derived from 2316 /theós, "God")

 

Strong's Concordance

theos: God, a god

Original Word: θεός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine; Noun, Masculine Transliteration: theos Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os) Definition: God, a god Usage: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.

 

 

Christendom rejects the Deity of Christ by rejecting Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. (2 John 7)

John 1:1c actually invokes the feminine sense of the Deity of Christ. To say otherwise, is a denial of the Deity of Christ. Matter of fact, the scriptures point to this refusal of acknowledging the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh, as aligning themselves with the Deceiver and Antichrist. "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)

Oct 11, 2018

3) Does it bother you that the Watchtower has 5 or more times unsuccessfully tried to predict the end of the world and to add insult to injury the bible itself says you judge a false prophet when what they say doesn't happen?

 

The Watchtower has not predicted the end of the world by any certain date because they never sided with False Religion that claims that the earth will be destroyed. Scriptures proclaim the opposite. "He made his sanctuary as enduring as the heavens, Like the earth that he has established forever." (Psalm 78:69)

 

I would like to point to a prophecy that is undergoing fulfillment now about the scoffers and ridiculers. "First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires  and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.” (2 Peter 3-4)

 

Such ones wag their heads at Jesus Christ and spat at him. Should I listen to the same ones who Deny Christ's Presence today? I think not......

Oct 12, 2018

As always thank you for your efforts in behalf of Jehovah's Kingdom :)

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