Apr 23

Gifts of prophecy & tongues - done away with but when?


"But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with. For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially, but when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with." - 1 Cor 13:8-10


In the above scripture, Paul makes references to the gifts of the "spirit" being done away with. It seems many believe the timing of these gifts being "done away with" coincidences with the death of the apostles or anointed remnant on the earth shortly after Christ death. This would be in the 1st century, ending with the Apostle John who was inspired to write the Book of Revelations. My question is, given the context of Paul's next statement in verse 10:

" but when what is complete comes, what is partial will be done away with"

is Paul referring to the time period or system of things in which he is living, or is he speaking to his fellow anointed Christians who are awaiting to be fully complete in spirit with Christ and their heavenly Father Jehovah? For when they take on what is incorruptible, there will be no need for "gifts of the spirit" such as prophecy, knowledge or tongues. Furthermore, could these gifts still be given to the few anointed remnant still on earth today?






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